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Hey, my older brother uses this website and I'm logged into his account.
I'm a sixteen year old white girl from Orange County and I'm looking to refine my bridge and tip. I have big eyes and full lips so this surgery (which is for sinuses also) will just enhance my looks a little more.
I'm consulting with Rollin Daniel and Haworth and I just want to compile a list of questions to ask before going into the consultations.... so far I've come up with these:
- How long have you been doing noses?
- How many have you done?
- Can I see before and afters?
- Can you do a visual rendering of the results?
- How many cases have you had to revise?
- Would you do a revision for free?
- Have you worked on noses similar to mine? Do you have any patient photos that mimic my nose shape?
- How long is the recovery going to be? (HONEST ANSWER)
“The serial number of a human specimen is the face, that accidental and unrepeatable combination of features. It reflects neither character nor soul, nor what we call the self.” Milan Kundera
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the definitive question would be to ask if you can see (face to face) patients on which he has worked.
he might say he doesn't give out patient information...but don't stop there...ask if his office can call a few past patients (preferably with your structure) to inquire if they would be willing meet....at the office
that way no "patient information" is given out and everyone is happy!
if he refuses or replies, "None of my patients are willing to do so." i'd be hesitant....
yes, even with someone with a reputation like this doctor
your nose looks like a very easy primary rhinoplasty so don't worry, it'll be perfect
but be diligent in having your questions answered and not dismissed by whomever you consult...also don't be intimidated and impressed by older successful men in white coats. they're just MEN...in white coats (lol)!
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Orange County Girl, you've got a good list of questions to start with. You may also want to talk to a patient to ask about the recovery process: pain, discomfort, sleeping, washing face, etc., just to get a better picture of it. How do you handle a drippy nose due to allergies, eating, or other? And - speaking from personal experience - ask the doctor what happens in case of an emergency? Does he have privileges at a local hospital? What are the warning signs you should be alert for after surgery: temperature, blood pressure, swelling, redness, inflammation, pain, etc. In fact, what is the plan for recovery? You may need to hire a home nurse for a few days. How committed is HE going to be to ensure you get critical care if needed? Not to spook you, but I developed a near-fatal staph infection from laser facial resurfacing done in May. My plastic surgeon was ignorant as to what that toxic body condition looked like. My fever of 104 prompted him to put me on antibiotic, but even that was administered ONE WEEK too late. A correct diagnosis came ONE MONTH later, because I was still following my plastic surgeon's advice - and he was flailing, lost in the dark, for weeks. I should've been admitted to a hospital DAY ONE, but that never happened. I am older and wiser for all that now. So go into this with both eyes open, knowing that YOU elect to have the procedure done; nothing is a sure thing, and all the recommendations in the world may not prevent the unexpected from happening.
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OC girl--it doesn't look like it would be very complicated because it looks what would be called a finesse surgery. There are a few other good drs in CA (I saw a dr in San Diego, and a few others in LA before choosing my dr in FL). The most important thing is that the dr doesn't over-resect your nose and take out too much cartilage (like my first dr did). In fact, my revision ps said that you don't even need to take out cartilage in most cases, and that, if done properly, sutures/osteotomies have the same effect but are less invasive and without destabilizing the nose.
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[quote=westthethird]
- How long have you been doing noses?
- How many have you done?
- Can I see before and afters?
- Can you do a visual rendering of the results?
- How many cases have you had to revise?
- Would you do a revision for free?
- Have you worked on noses similar to mine? Do you have any patient photos that mimic my nose shape?
- How long is the recovery going to be? (HONEST ANSWER)
I personally think you should dispense with these questions and just present your aesthetic issue and see how they respond. If you feel like you might benefit from seeing before/afters, just politely ask if you could see some of their work. If you want to talk about why/how's of revision work, by all means, have that conversation. Pay close attention to everything you can about the doctor and what he's saying, and be as natural and honest as possible. If you feel like you have unresolved questions after the consult, call or email the office.
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Instead of asking to see a visual rendering of the "results", (morphs don't predict results in all cases), it would be better to say something like: 'Can you show me what your aesthetic vision would be for my nose?'
Instead of asking if he would do a revision for free, you ask: 'What's your policy on revisions if one is needed?'
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OC girl - I don't know when noses "stop" growing - I know when I had mine done at 17 my surgeon was a bit reluctant - I don't know if surgeons don't follow that rule now..
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I've had four nose surgeries and counting...yes one of those. I personally like your nose. I know, you want a smaller, cuter nose. But seriously, you may get a fake-looking or worse, collapsing nose. Just sayin'. You hardly have an awful nose, some kind of Shrek situation or a beak. Your nose suits you. I recently read a blog by a rather honest plastic surgeon who says, these days, since patients want natural-looking noses, not like in the old days when small=good, revision rates are upwards of 25%....That really could be you. No matter how good the doc.
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Hope40 wrote:I've had four nose surgeries and counting...yes one of those. I personally like your nose. I know, you want a smaller, cuter nose. But seriously, you may get a fake-looking or worse, collapsing nose. Just sayin'. You hardly have an awful nose, some kind of Shrek situation or a beak. Your nose suits you. I recently read a blog by a rather honest plastic surgeon who says, these days, since patients want natural-looking noses, not like in the old days when small=good, revision rates are upwards of 25%....That really could be you. No matter how good the doc. Why would revision rates be higher for more natural looking noses? Didn't those tiny pinched in upturned noses usually collapse over time?
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I agree that eventually the revision rate was very high for those pinched noses. But now, more sophisticated tastes are realizing that their noses don't look natural sooner and demanding revisions right away, I guess. That was what this surgeon was implying.
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Don't touch your face - you are beautiful. I know you are only 16 and live in a very aesthetically obsessed region, but chances are you will look worse after your surgery. At least give it a couple of years until you know yourself better.
my 2 cents (which I've learned after spending thousands)
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Hope40 wrote:I've had four nose surgeries and counting...yes one of those. I personally like your nose. I know, you want a smaller, cuter nose. But seriously, you may get a fake-looking or worse, collapsing nose. Just sayin'. You hardly have an awful nose, some kind of Shrek situation or a beak. Your nose suits you. I recently read a blog by a rather honest plastic surgeon who says, these days, since patients want natural-looking noses, not like in the old days when small=good, revision rates are upwards of 25%....That really could be you. No matter how good the doc. hey hope i beat you! i had 5 nose jobs and the fifth one was the charm! i bet it will be for you too! good thoughts to you. ocgirl...GO FOR IT! take your time to choose a surgeon wisely and you'll be fine even if it take a couple of years till you are of age the work you need will be subtle but will be worth it! good thoughts to you, too!
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