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Mike D
Posted: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:24:15 PM
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Was wondering if anyone has had "intradermal botox" and what your thoughts are on it.

What it is: Botox injected superficially into the skin (not into the muscular level) around the cheeks and nose in "micro" doses. It apparently causes the pores to close up, leaving the skin in these areas smooth and poreless looking, also decreasing the "shine" of oily skin. If done correctly (very superficially), it will not cause paralysis of this area. Supposedly in the cheek area, when the pores close up, it will also give a subtle lifting effect on this area.

Pros that I can see: Really smooth skin, decrease in oil/sebum production,shrunken pores and slightly lifted cheeks. My forehead sometimes gets shiny after botox, but apparently this only happens when the stuff is injected into the muscle, not superficially (the opposite supposedly happens).

Cons: Sounds really expensive, time consuming for the injector, and potentially devastating to anyone injected too deeply by an injector inexperienced in this "new(?)" technique. I guess if injected too deeply, you'd get total paralysis of this area until the botox wears off.

I first heard about this several years ago from Dr. Lam who was researching some Asian doc overseas who were doing it. He had not started doing it yet and I don't think does it to date. I researched it a little lately and found some docs overseas that do it, but only one doctor in the U.S. that does it: Dr. Kamran Jafri in NYC http://tinyurl.com/2dfn33h

I don't know anything about this doctor, nor am I endorsing/plugging him. Just wanted to see if anyone has done this, knows of any other U.S. docs doing it and/or your thoughts. It sounds really promising.

Miss J/Moderators-- don't know if this should be in this forum or the skin care forum, but put it here where I thought the most "traffic" comes. My apologies if this topic has been discussed before.
MissJ
Posted: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:30:23 PM
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Well, the pores, I think have something to do with tiny tiny tiny muscle movements or some kind of fiber that opens and closes them. So, it sounds kind of tedious to get all of them that way.

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Mike D
Posted: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:32:23 PM
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Tedious...yes- especially with my pores, lol
Meeka
Posted: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 5:36:23 AM
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I first read of this on Anil Shah's website. I have no experience of it and dont know if its effective .
kosmeds
Posted: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 7:27:58 AM
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One person on acne.org tried it. It didn't work for her. Since this is a new procedure, it's best to wait and see who it works for. The doctors will tell you it will work and take your money but it will not necessarily work.
Mike D
Posted: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:59:25 AM
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Agreed, kosmeds. I think I will wait to see if it is adopted as a technique by many more docs to try it myself. The theory of it makes sense for pore shrinkage. Like most other injectable techniques, I am sure that it is very much dependent upon a good injector for success-- some will get good results, others not.
westthethird
Posted: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:49:16 AM
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MissJ> The tiny pore muscles would be best dosed via topical, like a botox gel. My derm in SF Narurkar once mentioned the potential for transdermal botox products in the future. It would solve alot of skin problems SIMULTANEOUSLY that contribute to breakouts, even more promising that it will clear stubborn acne.. I WANT IT!!

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MissJ
Posted: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:16:57 PM
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Maybe that would work.

westthethird wrote:
MissJ> The tiny pore muscles would be best dosed via topical, like a botox gel. My derm in SF Narurkar once mentioned the potential for transdermal botox products in the future. It would solve alot of skin problems SIMULTANEOUSLY that contribute to breakouts, even more promising that it will clear stubborn acne.. I WANT IT!!


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