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I noticed on the red carpet close-ups women past a certain age get crepiness under the eyes. Is this something you can get rid of?
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Where are you finding these high-res images? OMG! I'd love to peruse them for myself. As to your question, I have no idea but I'd like to know. I think the only thing that may be able to help them would be retinol or something that would thicken the skin. Unfortunately crepiness is a natural aging process.
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Yes, you can make it temporarily look better with seriously ablative laser (but it will come back). It was not worth it for me. I was left with a malar bag that will never resolve because of ablative laser. My lines/crepiness only abated for 1.5 years and slowly returned. The trade-off, downtime and risks were not worth it and are not worth it, IMO. I will say, after rushing to look in the mirror just now (LOL), when I smile my crinkles/crepiness is not as bad as any of those pictured. I know I'm NOT younger than Melanie and SJP.
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Anyone's under eye skin will bunch up when smiling, but probably looks 100 x worse with these high resolution photos. They pick up every minute detail, I bet they all look way better IRL. But generally crepey skin is tricky. You can't really do much surgically, so probably the best thing is to keep the under eye area hydrated at all times, use retin a to thicken the skin like Tallulah mentioned above and also consider finding a product to help restore elasticity.
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I have that but I've been 'sitting on' a possible 'skin pinch' to address it for like 6 years. If I could run in to NYC, first thing I would do is blow out the area with some sculptra. But I have the BIG cheeks so I can blow out the lids more than the average person.
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So MissJ, you would put sculptra right in the lower lid crease? I like the idea of the skin pinch because that would lift some slack skin too.
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I'm just skittish that it would pull down the lower lash line. According to the papers I've read, it has a low incidence of doing that though. But don't mind my skittishness. I seem to be skittish about everything these days. I think the pinch calls for a cut under the lash line that extends diagonally downward into a 'crows foot area' as the incision goes past the lateral canthal area. The crows foot extension would tend to take away some tension from too much of it pulling against the lower lash line.
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I would suggest a ocuplast for a skin pinch or a PS who's done a lot of them to avoid the lower lid pull down that Miss J mentions. I may also do this one day, as with fat repositioning (what little fat I have) it may slightly improve my malar bag issue.
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Miss J,
You are comfortable enough with Sculptra under the eyes?
I'm happy with it in my cheeks and chin and I'd love to have it in the undereye
area but I thought that Sculptra under the eyes was sure to cause bumps.
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I think alot of under eye crepiness can be prevented, at least well past a certain age. For example, SJP has premature aging IMO, since I always remember seeing her on Sex in the City (later seasons) when she was late 30s and her under eyes already had alot of wrinkles, much more than the other women on the show. Even in photos that are not high-def, in natural lighting, I have seen her eyes wrinkly and crepey over the past few yrs. I saw on set pics of her in natural daylight while taping Sex (the movie) in NYC, and even her forehead lines were visible. Then in the movie, of course, they are not so visible. Maybe the lighting, alot of makeup, visual effects, etc.
But not all women her age have that crepiness. I think it can be prevented with sunscreen, everyday, sunglasses as much as possible (I wear them even when it's overcast), retin-a (lightly) over years, antioxidant creams, etc.
But they have to be started before aging signs start to show. But many women get way too much sun or don't bother with antiaging regimens when they are in their 20s, some don't even do it in their 30s until they start seeing some lines. Maybe alot more do nowadays, but I still see way too many young girls getting tans, not using sunglasses in glaring sunlight-and squinting like crazy, that it makes me flinch just thinking of the damage they are going to get. lol
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Hi Miss J I might be a future candidate:) But if a pinch was going to work, why wouldn't these gals have tried, or do you think they have and it has failed??? Is there a sure-fire solution? MissJ wrote:I have that but I've been 'sitting on' a possible 'skin pinch' to address it for like 6 years. If I could run in to NYC, first thing I would do is blow out the area with some sculptra. But I have the BIG cheeks so I can blow out the lids more than the average person.
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I'm gonna stick my neck out here and guess that SJP had recent Botox to the forehead and smile line area - cuz you can see those crepey lines under her eyes stop DEAD right at one point, and do not swoop out beyond the lower eyelid (as they do on all the other ladies pictured here). I can only say that my *secret* to diminishing the crepey under-eye look is to use a dime-sized dollop of Banana Boat SPF 35 sunblock mixed in with my foundation and a pea-sized dot of moisturizer. The older I get, I simply have to mix a long-lasting emolient in with any kind of foundation, or within a couple hours, that foundation would simply cake up in all the cracks and crevices. I'd end up looking like something dragged out of King Tut's tomb (assuming it lived 3300+ years!). So Red Carpet ladies: tone down that cakey makeup! Add some moisturizer - or spritz yourself with water before stepping into the harsh lights.
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Good detective work on SJP Bugjune. So does that mean when she smiles, her cheeks won't lift higher either due to the botox near her eyes?
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My derm tried a little in the general area and I was OK with it. 32301 wrote:Miss J,
You are comfortable enough with Sculptra under the eyes?
I'm happy with it in my cheeks and chin and I'd love to have it in the undereye
area but I thought that Sculptra under the eyes was sure to cause bumps.
Jennifer
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But not all women her age have that crepiness. I think it can be prevented with sunscreen, everyday, sunglasses as much as possible (I wear them even when it's overcast), retin-a (lightly) over years, antioxidant creams, etc.
But they have to be started before aging signs start to show. But many women get way too much sun or don't bother with antiaging regimens when they are in their 20s, some don't even do it in their 30s until they start seeing some lines. Maybe alot more do nowadays, but I still see way too many young girls getting tans, not using sunglasses in glaring sunlight-and squinting like crazy, that it makes me flinch just thinking of the damage they are going to get. lol
A lot of young women are starting to take care of their skin now. Out of my close girl friends at least, no one tans, everyone wears SPF daily and uses anti aging products. They're not as obsessive as I am (flourescent white, wearing sunglasses all the time during daylight hours outside or driving, microdermabrasion and many antioxidants among other things), but they do care a lot more than my older sister's age group (6 years older) ever did.
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I don't know if they had it though. I don't think it would make the area perfectly smooth though. pauluk wrote:Hi Miss J
I might be a future candidate:) But if a pinch was going to work, why wouldn't these gals have tried, or do you think they have and it has failed???
Is there a sure-fire solution?
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For the first six months after my lower lid resurfacing, they were baby butt smooth (other than the redness from the procedure and resultant malar bag). So, it can be accomplished with ablative laser but I just don't think it can be maintained, long term. Plus, the trade-offs simply are not worth it--long or short term.
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It's more that the crinkles under the lower eyelids won't bunch up. Cheeks will lift .. but they will run into a STONE wall where that Botox was injected. Also! I have to guffaw big-time at what I saw in a recent People magazine at the doc's office today: a close up of SJP with ZERO wrinkles anywhere on her face (under eyes, by the mouth, anywhere!). She was pitching Garnier's Nutritioniste Ultra-Lift Anti Wrinkle Firming Moisturizing Cream SPF 15 Sunscreen. Who the he!! comes up with these product names? Mary Poppins? Yeah, she may as well be touting PhotoShop CS2 fercrissake. That's her secret to eternal youth as far as I'm concerned. Feh. ================================================ cybergirl wrote:Good detective work on SJP Bugjune. So does that mean when she smiles, her cheeks won't lift higher either due to the botox near her eyes?
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Bugjune wrote:
Yeah, she may as well be touting PhotoShop CS2 fercrissake. That's her secret to eternal youth as far as I'm concerned. Feh.
Yup. Now they just need to come up with a virtual reality cloaking device/memetic device to use for those live events lol!
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