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Dee
Posted: Sunday, March 07, 2010 12:10:13 PM
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In the daily mail recently, there's an article about a woman who actually injects her teenager daughter with botox! She's already spent half a million pounds on cosmetic surgery for herself and now seems she wants the daughter to follow in her footsteps. Here is the article if anyone is interested:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1255804/The-misguided-mother-Britain-Shes-Human-Barbie-injects-16-year-old-Botox--love.html

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That's what......750,000 in USD?

Yeah....I would like to see THAT itemized.

If you spend more than 250,000 USD (no matter how ugly you are) on surgery.....UR DOIN IT WRONG!!

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Posted: Sunday, March 07, 2010 1:00:41 PM
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What the hell?! the article says THIS is a pic of her at age 14?!?! She looks like shes over 20 in this pic! If the daughter got her mother's genes.....shes gonna NEED a TON of botox! But she probably didn't given the fact that she looks like a normal 16 year old girl.


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Dee
Posted: Sunday, March 07, 2010 3:54:44 PM
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yatterman1 wrote:
That's what......750,000 in USD?

Yeah....I would like to see THAT itemized.

If you spend more than 250,000 USD (no matter how ugly you are) on surgery.....UR DOIN IT WRONG!!


Yep around that much. It's insane she spent half a million, although wondering if that's including all the repeated botox, filler and skin treatments she's been having for the last 30 years as well as the multiple facelifts, boob jobs and lipo. Even then it does seem rather exuberant to say the least!

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I think the main reason people keep their surgeries quiet is because there is a puritanical cruel judgment about people who have "worK" done, as shown in the comments section and the article. If that is what makes her happy, good for her. Thanks for posting that, I found that article intriguing.
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Yes ... and then there's Sharon Osbourne. Not one to nickel-and-dime her own surgical work. So far, she's spent $480,000 (which she said was for tummy tuck, facelift and breast lift).

Now for that kinda money, I'd be wondering more what was NOT done. And what could possibly be left TO DO?

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Well I read the full article of that which was printed in the paper (for UK people someone left it on the train, I do not buy the Daily Mail) and it had a list of surgeries in the cost and they were a bit dubious at best. I think they had listed a breast augmentation as costing £15000 and a chin augmentation at about £10000. Also, she has bi-annual jaw lipo.
ITALIA
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Whats wrong with buying the Daily Mail ?
Dee
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Bugjune wrote:
Yes ... and then there's Sharon Osbourne. Not one to nickel-and-dime her own surgical work. So far, she's spent $480,000 (which she said was for tummy tuck, facelift and breast lift).

Now for that kinda money, I'd be wondering more what was NOT done. And what could possibly be left TO DO?


Didn't SO have a full body lift after she lost all that weight? She once mentioned about having a thigh-lift and said the the saggy skin was pulled up like an old sock....lovely analogy.

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Is that a serious question,Italia???

Horrible right wing, illiberal, racist, mysoginistic, homophobic, gutterpress. Ack!

I hope you are asking that question because you don't know rather than because you are an avid reader???



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Whats wrong with buying the Daily Mail ?
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I think that woman is really not understanding how the skin ages in the first place. Botox injections for a teenager is way too young, and I've also read from a few dermatologists that even most people in their 20s are still too young for 'preventive' Botox. The main reason wrinkles form are due to loss of collagen/elasticity, from years of cumulative UVA exposure. So her best advice for her daughter should be to use sunscreen daily and avoiding deliberate suntanning. Also using retin-a can't hurt, since many teens use it for acne anway.
Expressions contribute to wrinkles, sure, but they are not the underlying cause. Children make all sorts of faces, even wrinkle their foreheads, but the lines go away when the faces are not in motion. It's due to their elasticity and lots of collagen, which is still present in most teenagers (unless they have some skin disorder).
I also have read conflicting opinions on getting preventive Botox for young people who don't have wrinkles (at rest), since eventually some people can develop tolerance to Botox, and won't work as well. The newer Dysport can work better for some people, but I've also read that people can develop antibodies to Dysport even faster than to Botox, and thus it won't work as well long term.

Also, there are some theories that muscles in the face can eventually atrophy (or weaken) if too much Botox is used for years, thus leading to sagging skin. I don't know how true that is though.

I have heard some derms say it's better to wait until Botox wears out almost completely and allowing some movement before injecting again, so there is less chance for tolerance, also less chance for muscle atrophy.
But starting Botox on a teenager doesn't seem right to me, and that would mean way too many years of usage that can possible lead to undesirable effects.
I have also read top derms say that Botox can work very well to eliminate lines for people just starting to see them, even if they are in their 30s or early 40s. Since skin still should have plenty of elasticity. Of course those who have premature deep lines will not get complete elimination but maybe just have them minimized.
I think for prevention the best thing is sunscreen, antioxidants, retinoids. Maybe Botox too, for some people, but at least until mid-late 20s, if the lines seem to stay for too long after the expression stops. But teenagers getting Botox is too young, imo.
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Yup, she did! I guess she lost a ton of weight after gastric bypass and must've done the entire bod - stem to stern, basement to attic!

Geez. It's a whole lot cheaper to just join a gym and work out regularly.


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Dee wrote:


Didn't SO have a full body lift after she lost all that weight? She once mentioned about having a thigh-lift and said the the saggy skin was pulled up like an old sock....lovely analogy.


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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:18:58 AM
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violeta wrote:
I think that woman is really not understanding how the skin ages in the first place. Botox injections for a teenager is way too young, and I've also read from a few dermatologists that even most people in their 20s are still too young for 'preventive' Botox. The main reason wrinkles form are due to loss of collagen/elasticity, from years of cumulative UVA exposure. So her best advice for her daughter should be to use sunscreen daily and avoiding deliberate suntanning. Also using retin-a can't hurt, since many teens use it for acne anway.
Expressions contribute to wrinkles, sure, but they are not the underlying cause. Children make all sorts of faces, even wrinkle their foreheads, but the lines go away when the faces are not in motion. It's due to their elasticity and lots of collagen, which is still present in most teenagers (unless they have some skin disorder).
I also have read conflicting opinions on getting preventive Botox for young people who don't have wrinkles (at rest), since eventually some people can develop tolerance to Botox, and won't work as well. The newer Dysport can work better for some people, but I've also read that people can develop antibodies to Dysport even faster than to Botox, and thus it won't work as well long term.

Also, there are some theories that muscles in the face can eventually atrophy (or weaken) if too much Botox is used for years, thus leading to sagging skin. I don't know how true that is though.

I have heard some derms say it's better to wait until Botox wears out almost completely and allowing some movement before injecting again, so there is less chance for tolerance, also less chance for muscle atrophy.
But starting Botox on a teenager doesn't seem right to me, and that would mean way too many years of usage that can possible lead to undesirable effects.
I have also read top derms say that Botox can work very well to eliminate lines for people just starting to see them, even if they are in their 30s or early 40s. Since skin still should have plenty of elasticity. Of course those who have premature deep lines will not get complete elimination but maybe just have them minimized.
I think for prevention the best thing is sunscreen, antioxidants, retinoids. Maybe Botox too, for some people, but at least until mid-late 20s, if the lines seem to stay for too long after the expression stops. But teenagers getting Botox is too young, imo.


This is true. I got Botox for migraines and my temples caved in a little because of muscle loss. Dr G describes this in his article as the hourglass deformity. The Botox is just to tell if I'm a candidate for surgery and the temples should fill in overtime but I have a pretty round forehead as it is so I don't like it.
ITALIA
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Pauluk,

I buy it all the time... Millions of people do.
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Isn't that a 'rag mag' like National Enquirer?

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Well, it is a bit like an upscale version... if you can imagine that. It has some serious journalism (albeit right wing) along with the silly gossip..

It can be entertaining if you can ignore the horrible politics of race and gender. The term "little-englander" always springs to mind when i think of the readership - middle class, white, right wing

Italia, millions of people do lots of bad things - doesn't make any of them more redeeming:)

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Sorry I didn't want to cause any trouble. I just didn't want people to align my views with those of the daily mail for the reasons pauluk mentioned.
Dee
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Violeta, 100% agree with EVERYTHING you said!

I think the lady is extremely misinformed (as well as irresponsible).

Dee
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Bugjune wrote:
Yup, she did! I guess she lost a ton of weight after gastric bypass and must've done the entire bod - stem to stern, basement to attic!

Geez. It's a whole lot cheaper to just join a gym and work out regularly.


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ha ha, there is probably not one inch of her body left untouched by the surgeons's scalpel!

Have to admit she does look good though : )

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pauluk wrote:
Is that a serious question,Italia???

Horrible right wing, illiberal, racist, mysoginistic, homophobic, gutterpress. Ack!

I hope you are asking that question because you don't know rather than because you are an avid reader???





Same goes for the NY POST but I'd rather read that than the NY TIMES anyday.
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