So I just got back from a speed dating event and there were 16 women and 15 men ages 25-35. There was not 1 good looking guy and yet 90% of the women were good looking. I've noticed this before just being out at bars. Why are there so many more attractive women then there are men? Is it because women can do so much more with hair and make-up? But it really was more than that because just looking at features, the men's features were very unattractive. It is disheartening as a single woman to want to be attracted to a man and it just doesn't happen.

Haha well I'm pretty sure at least two of the guys were gay...all I could think is "what are you doing here?" But maybe they were just gay straight men.

I think these days most young women are getting some type of facial p.s., even if it's a nose job. It's not as uncommon as people may think, especially not in metropolitan areas. I hardly ever see women in NYC, for example with a huge bumpy nose, or a very unattractive nose. Sure, not everyone has a perfect or very cute nose, but most girls/young women I see in the city have a decent nose. I don't think they all happen to have great genes. I just think it's very common to get rhinos now. Some people may never notice that a person got a nose job.

But when I travel to other places that are not so metropolitan, I see alot more big or unattractive noses on females.
I think a nose job can really make a difference on a face.
But it's not just that. I do know in Manhattan, many women get 'subtle' lip fillers or some may get more a more dramatic look. But many that I have seen ( I have a good eye for that,since I have gotten it myself for years) or heard about, get it in a natural way, that others may not notice..yet it can make a girl appear more attractive.
So small procedures can make a difference, in addition to makeup/hair.

Sorry, but where I live and spend time - East Coast of USA and Canada, it's the total opposite. Even average girls will date men that are better looking than them. I have women who are borderline obese approaching me- often aggresively, while a borderline obese male would never even approach a below-average female.

I think you had a bad speed date, because the trend( imho) is definitely the opposite of what you describe. All the straight males will agree with me here.

Yes unattractive to the point where I could never kiss them. Though sometimes if a friendship develops months down the road this could change if the personality is amazing. It's so rare to find good looking guys.

I spend my time equally between Toronto and New York city.I also have spent extensive time in Boston and Vegas. Maybe it's time to get out of Jersey is all I can say .All the males I know in Toronto and New York have the exact same opinion that I do. Just this past Sunday in a pub, a 22 year old girl, who was portly and at best average, literally hounded me. She was so aggressive, I was litterally shocked. At one point she started rubbing hand cream on my arms and fingers in a sexual manner. She also whispered to me in my ear words that not even my male friends would say aloud. No chance in hell a male that is below average would approach any girl, never mind hound them. If you're a male and you're below average, you have zero options, other than being set up with someone or meeting someone with similar religous or cultural affilitations. Of course if you're rich, you might land a trophey wife, who loves everything green about you. But few of us are rich, so the latter isn't really part of the equation for 99% of us.

The reality is that on the dating scene, the average or below average guy is usually lonely and will have to at best settle for portly, unattractive famles and even that is a stretch often. You really have to be up there on the social scale and have a personality that transcends looks to make up for physical shortcomings if you're a male.

the above, in my opinion, represents things in North America. In Europe it's quite different and also in Asia, from personal experience.

Representing from across the pond.

I defiantly agree with you on the whole cocky thing. I don't think it is genuine cockiness however but more used as a tactic to pull. Remember a lot of the guys in the UK are going out to pull but have no real interest in a relationship at all; therefore when they do the whole cocky thing it is a way of attracting the right sort of girl. Also, ugly guys tend to be even cockier in how they come across in the belief that if they tell you how hot they are you might just believe it.

About the height thing I am not so sure, you may have just been unlucky in terms of short men but out of my group of friends I am the shortest and I am 6 foot. If you really like your men tall then you should have hopped across the channel to Holland; they are on average the tallest in the world.

Finally I think you were unlucky in terms of the countries you went to; both the UK and Greece aren't exactly famous for producing good looking men. As you say the average English guy tends to look a little inbred and most of the Greeks I have met tend to have fairly large noses. Dutch guys tend to be pretty good looking as do Croatians and Spanish.

QFT, sorry this made me laugh its actually so true.
I agree though theres hardly any diversity in england, very few attractive people/men where USA has every single race/culture under the sun = alot to pick from !

Cindy:

where are you located - maybe NYC - I know that it has a disproportionate amt of gorgeous young women (most of them aspiring actresses and models) versus straight men (yes there are a lot of gorgeous young men in NYC but they are mostly gay)

It is sad that an attractive woman can't find a man she can get physically turned on by - also maybe it has changed a bit -but in the past women sought money and prestige as opposed to looks - I personally think women cheated themselves out of true pleasure because of that thinking - it is a wonderful feeling to be in love with a man physically and walk down the street with him, knowing that people think he is hot LOL

I hang out in very reputable bars. Why would I need to work on my social skills ? I wasn't the offender here. The issue here isn't me, but the fact women today in North America have the options. Even the ones that are below average expect to date guys that are much more attractive than they are.