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http://www.refresherlift.com/the_processIf this is REAL it is remarkable!! Does anyone have any insight to this new (I think) procedure and has anyone actually done it?? Id love to see pics!
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It looks like a regular facelift and fat transfer to me just with a catchy name, like lifestyle lift or lunchtime lift. Her results look good tho she had a great base to start with.
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you were not kidding, those are crazy good before and afters.
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I agree that she looks great. However, I think one of the marks of a great FL is to preserve the appearance of the tragus and earlobe. Even with make up on her tragus is essentially gone and her ear lobe looks like it was sewn into the side of her face. This may just be my pet peeve.
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Wow those afters are really amazing.
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Of the ones noted, I saw no pics taken longer than 30 days post-op---but I could have missed some that were longer, didn't look at all of them. No way to tell much after 30 days with regard to 'final' results or longevity.
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The admin contact for the website is: Clinique of Plastic Surgery & Rejuvenation Institute Florida. Ever heard of it. I have not.
This appears to be some kind of CORPORATE FRANCHISE thing in which doctors part of the franchise can use the catchy MARKETING TERM; "Refresher Lift" to attract patients they might not otherwise attract by their reputation alone.
I will warn you though that THOSE kind of things DO attract the type of doctors that you might not elect to go with based on their name and rep alone. That's why they sign up to be members of those kinds of franchise outfits where an outside business corporation advertises and markets something with a catchy new name.
Prior BUSINESS MODELS of attracting patients that way include the "Life Style Lift". Although they might not be doing the same thing, I would advise you to stay clear of those kinds of business models .
Also, to FIND OUT which doctors are doing it, the site requires you to list your full contact info as in full name, personal information etc. Gotta wonder why they require all of that just to tell you which docs are in your area.. Don't know about you, but I would not want to share personal info with a corporate entity I knew nothing about just to find out which doctors in my area are licensed to use their trademark name of "refresher lift". Too many unscrupulous corporate entities setting their tailings into the patient population these days. Not saying they are but will say, i've 'sniffed out these kinds of things before and have been right.
Let me say that what ever outcomes they are showing can be achieved by doctors NOT part of their set up.
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Miss J, we think alike. I thought the very same things, then went to check out the docs to see if anyone I recognised was on the list and was asked to register. When I had to give all of my info, it was a HUGE red flag to me. I quickly clicked off and said 'no way'.
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Since "Refresher Lift" resolves to little more than a TRADE NAME for procedure/procedures associated with some kind of corporate franchise type business model and the kind of procedures inherent with it CAN be performed by doctors outside of belonging to that establishment, I'm transferring this to this section.
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Here is a site where the doctor demoing in the video has a contact form: http://www.locateadoc.com/doctors/plastic-surgery/fl/drehsen-christian-305710-clearwater.htmlFilling out a contact form giving your full name and phone # is appropriate and quite OK when you are wanting to communicate directly to the doctor's office. However, to be required to fill out a form asking for MORE info than that, just to find out which doctors in your area are part of it is not really the protocol for something like that. You know, if I want to find out which ASAPS doctors in my area are, it's not a thing where I have to give personal info to get it. However, if I wanted to make personal contact with one of the doctors on their list, then yes, then it would be appropriate for me to disclose my contact information. Like it's perfectly understandable why doctors would not want to be communicating with anonymous entities over the internet in private correspondence. But a listing of which doctors associated with an organization is NOT 'private correspondence'. DCNGA wrote:Miss J, we think alike. I thought the very same things, then went to check out the docs to see if anyone I recognised was on the list and was asked to register. When I had to give all of my info, it was a HUGE red flag to me. I quickly clicked off and said 'no way'.
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Well, most certainly a Dr. Drehsan in FLA is on the list because the website resolves to the establishment he is associated with and he is also shown on the video you see on the website. Although I do take RateMDs dot com with a 'grain of salt', here is some feedback found on him there: http://www.ratemds.com/doctor-ratings/142102/FL/Tampa/Drehsen
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Yikes, those sound a lot like LSL stories, with regard to pressuring and results. When I went to the site, that was also my first impression or thoughts--sounds LSL-like in promotion. I thought the website tauted good 'facial' docs, yet this doc does breast implants? Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I was left with the impression from the original website that 'their' doctors were face specialist (only did faces). Maybe I misunderstood.
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Well plastic surgeons; ASPS members can do face and body.
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From the look of those Before and After shots, it appears she also changed ethnicity. laurad wrote:http://www.refresherlift.com/the_process
If this is REAL it is remarkable!! Does anyone have any insight to this new (I think) procedure and has anyone actually done it?? Id love to see pics!
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sam wrote:I agree that she looks great. However, I think one of the marks of a great FL is to preserve the appearance of the tragus and earlobe. Even with make up on her tragus is essentially gone and her ear lobe looks like it was sewn into the side of her face. This may just be my pet peeve. I agree about her ears, sheesh. I also think it's nice of them to suggest a 10 day *Refresher Vacation* in Tampa Bay, with sightseeing suggestions for you, each day. What else could you ask for? LOL
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From their site:
"....Finally, a month to two months following surgery, we take our last pictures and these are with makeup and compared to the ones taken during the consultation..."
NOT a good sign folks. When evaluating the outcome of a face lifting procedure, you need to look at it 8 months to a year post op.
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I agree with DCNGA, sounds like lifestile lift.
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Well...I immediately thought of Lifestyle Lift, they seem to be copying their marketing model. BUT this doctor does say pracitioners must be certifed by the MS Board of Plastic Surgery, have conducted 500 cosmetic surgery procedures, use accredited facilities, receive special training under the head doc. They distance themselves from LSL, saying this is a facelift with longevity, not a "mini-lift." I wish their pics were not taken in different light, without/with makeup, so soon post-op. This really hurts their credibility. Also the "before and afters" are hard to compare the way they have them set up to "go back and forth."
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What's this scar doing on her hairline (first lady)? Or is that her hair?
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cybergirl wrote:What's this scar doing on her hairline (first lady)? Or is that her hair? I do not think hair does that,the line definitely looks like a recent(fresh) scar.
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