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Well, I have some kind of SLEEP DISORDER and maybe this could help? Dunno--just bought a new pricey bed and that did not help much--like it's not 100 X more comfortable than the air mattress I was prior sleeping on and I still got up at noon and tired. DCNGA wrote:Some interesting discussion/info on this appliance: http://www.apneasupport.org/about15670.htmlhttp://orgoneproducts.org/blog/2009/09/06/palate-expansion-update-with-the-homeoblock/ (strange info here) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15641449Interesting: Quote:Angle Orthod. 2006 Sep;76(5):876-81. Cephalometric facial soft tissue changes with the twin block appliance in Class II division 1 malocclusion patients. A systematic review. Flores-Mir C, Major PW. Craniofacial and Oral Health Evidence-based Practice Group, Faculty of Medicine and Dentistry, University of Alberta, Canada. carlosflores@ualberta.caOBJECTIVE: To evaluate facial soft tissue changes after the use of the twin block appliance in Class II division 1 malocclusion patients. MATERIALS AND METHODS: Several electronic databases (PubMed, MEDLINE, MEDLINE In-Process & Other Non-Indexed Citations, Cochrane databases, EMBASE, Web of Science, and LILACS) were searched with the help of a senior health-sciences librarian. Abstracts that appeared to fulfill the initial selection criteria were selected by consensus, and the original articles were retrieved. The article references were hand-searched for possible missing articles. Clinical trials that assessed facial soft tissue changes with the use of the twin block appliance without any surgical intervention or syndromic characteristics were considered. A comparable untreated control group was required to factor out normal growth changes. RESULTS: Two articles fulfilled the selection criteria and quantified facial soft tissue changes. Although some statistically significant changes in the soft tissue profile were found, the magnitude of the changes may not be perceived as clinically significant. Changes produced in the upper lip seem to be controversial, although the study with sounder methodological quality did not report significant changes. No change in the anteroposterior position of the lower lip and the soft tissue menton or improvement of the facial convexity was found. CONCLUSIONS: Three-dimensional quantification of the soft tissue changes is required to overcome current limitations in our understanding of the soft tissue changes obtained after the use of the twin block appliance in Class II division 1 malocclusion patients.
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Thanks kk. that was very informative. Wonder what happens if one is missing a tooth where the device is meant to be. kk25 wrote:MissJ the adjustments are done by using o tool (the one in the far right, for Daughter it was 1.5 turns every night). the expander on the younger people(kids and stuff) works faster, so fast that it creates a gap in the front teeth shortly after 2 weeks(middle) that closes eventually when teeth fixed braces cant achieve the same expansion.  what you do to adjust is put the tool in the little space that appears as a circle in the below picture then slide it forward towards the teeth  the fixed expander is undetectable, it is bonded to the molars so it cant be taken out , only ortho can take it out,
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kk25 wrote: MissJ the adjustments are done by using o tool (the one in the far right, for Daughter it was 1.5 turns every night). the expander on the younger people(kids and stuff) works faster, so fast that it creates a gap in the front teeth shortly after 2 weeks(middle) that closes eventually when teeth fixed braces cant achieve the same expansion. Two of my kids had expanders. My husband always did the turning. I could not stand to do it. I remember though, sometimes you could actually hear tiny cracking sounds while he was doing it. KK is right about the gap in the front teeth. Crazy.
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Well, I consulted about the home block device while I was in NYC. OK, I hate to admit this BUT my teeth are in DISREPAIR. Like I have a few broken down ones that need root canals and caps and of course, I was hoping I could get the device anyway. The dentist, Dr. Trojanowaski (121 East 60th street) who has the device was really nice. Like he didn't need to spend any time convincing me that the thing would be good for my case, as I could TELL it would but I guess he was a tad beside himself when, here he sees the IDEAL CANDIDATE for that device (me) who could really benefit BUT I can't have it UNTIL I get the rest of my teeth fixed--like the broken molars I've just been living with because I did not want to put the money into the root canals with caps ect because I need to channel the funds into other cosmetic stuff (and I can hide my broken teeth from others anyway because they are in back). So, I need to return with a "healthy mouth" (I guess to the tune of how ever how much all those root canals and caps will cost) before he will put the device in. The device is about $3,500--hey-- at least it was not $35,000--. Aside from the teeth that need to be fixed before I can even hope to get the device, I am SO MUCH the 'ideal candidate' for it. The ideal candidate is someone who needs to get fillers and PS because their bone structure has a bad morphology and is involuting. Like someone who gets PS procedures because they are trying to HIDE inherent problems on the max fax front with regard to the bone structure of the face sinking inward with age. Like I know, my face needs a PUSH OUT more than it needs a face lift. So, I guess my next cosmetic project is to address my crappy teeth so I can have this device. So, this dentist was nice enough and spent a lot of time with me and I think he does have a product that will do something for people who are candidates for what the product does. What it does is give somewhat of a 'push out' to the face. Here is his website: http://www.trojanowskidds.com/homeoblock.html
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Did he mention if you need to do periodic appointments while wearing the device (as with braces)?
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Miss J, dental work is VERY expensive (which you probably know). You might check around at any dental schools in your area as such work performed by dental students will be much less expensive. Dental supplies (caps, crowns, etc) are also very expensive and at inflated prices. Dentistry is one area that won't be addressed in any health care program sponsored by the gov't, which is a shame. Affordable dental care is non-existent. My guess is people wanting to go into medicine will redirect themselves into dentistry as there won't be the same type of restrictions put on them in that field, opposed to the regulations that will eventually overtake the medical field.
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Some but not every week or month. CassVersion2.0 wrote:Did he mention if you need to do periodic appointments while wearing the device (as with braces)?
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I know. Dental work seems to be much more expensive than even PS and in my case, getting suggested dental work prior, is what precipitated a lot of the broken tooth problems I have now. DCNGA wrote:Miss J, dental work is VERY expensive (which you probably know). You might check around at any dental schools in your area as such work performed by dental students will be much less expensive. Dental supplies (caps, crowns, etc) are also very expensive and at inflated prices.
Dentistry is one area that won't be addressed in any health care program sponsored by the gov't, which is a shame. Affordable dental care is non-existent. My guess is people wanting to go into medicine will redirect themselves into dentistry as there won't be the same type of restrictions put on them in that field, opposed to the regulations that will eventually overtake the medical field.
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Although I went to school for a while to be a dental assistant, I could not go through with it. I was too squeamish. My brother and ex-SIL are both in dentistry. The prices are soooooo inflated for the time and materials. Poor dental care or lack thereof can lead to many health problems. I would start out with fillings, then root canals, then caps/crowns. Also, you may need deep planing, so get your gums checked...many dental problems start with gum issues. Without healthy gums, the rest is a moot point.
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I will probably need to go back to Hungary to get all of the dental work. I used to live in the 'dental capital' of Europe where the work is reasonably priced and the dentists are good. So, I will most likely need to go back there for dental work as doing that stuff HERE is just too much.
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