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sam
Posted: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:08:16 PM
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I had a dog bite to the face this weekend. I was started on oral and topical Abx immediately. When I saw my derm on Monday she gave me Pro Heal Serum Advance. She uses it on skin cancer patients to prevent scarring and pigmentary changes. She told me to look at their website - www.isclinical.com - which is very interesting. I don't start using it until my scabs fall off so I'll report back. Lots of information on the website. If this works I think it would be great for PS scars. If it doesn't I will be really depressed.
Is it a sign that I have a PS consult on Friday and a dog bite to the face on Saturday?
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Posted: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:41:01 PM
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Sam, Omg hope it heals nicely, that is one of the things(dog bites) that freak me out
if you dont mind me asking, what type of dog was it?
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Posted: Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:41:39 PM
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sam wrote:
I had a dog bite to the face this weekend. I was started on oral and topical Abx immediately. When I saw my derm on Monday she gave me Pro Heal Serum Advance. She uses it on skin cancer patients to prevent scarring and pigmentary changes. She told me to look at their website - www.isclinical.com - which is very interesting. I don't start using it until my scabs fall off so I'll report back. Lots of information on the website. If this works I think it would be great for PS scars. If it doesn't I will be really depressed.
Is it a sign that I have a PS consult on Friday and a dog bite to the face on Saturday?


Who are you consulting with on Friday?
MissJ
Posted: Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:02:29 PM
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OMG sam. I hope it gets better. Please keep us posted.
sam
Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 11:08:10 AM
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Thanks MissJ and KK. As I've said before I am obsessed with my skin so this was scary. Right in the middle of the forehead down the side of the nose and under the eye. The eye was swollen shut so I was really lucky that the eye was not involved.
The dog is a mutt. We've had him and his sister for four years and he's the sweetest guy. The man who trained him is meeting with us this weekend. He thinks its our fault beause we treat them like family and the dog was just showing me he was alpha and we need to stop letting them sleep with us and start showing them they're dogs again.
I think I will heal well. I am still on oral Abx but switched from topical Abx to the IS Clinical. I'll report on the effectiveness over time as I am doing everything to prevent scaring.
It breaks my heart to put the dogs in their kennel at night but I don't want to be the next face transplant patient.
Sarah, it was the consult I already wrote about.
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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 11:37:09 AM
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That sound really bad, did you have to get stitches(skin tore) or is it just teeth marks?
you might find the copper peptides helpful, but use them only after the wound has closed.

stay away from the sun while you are healing,because it can cause discoloration on scars,
you also might find helpful the silicone sheets.

I know what you mean about breaking the heart... I have 3 Dogs and only one of them gets to do watever
he wants in the house(He is very lazy so it just lays all the time), but the other 2 dont have the same freedom, because one is Crazy and the other one is a Dominant breed(Akita)





sam wrote:
Thanks MissJ and KK. As I've said before I am obsessed with my skin so this was scary. Right in the middle of the forehead down the side of the nose and under the eye. The eye was swollen shut so I was really lucky that the eye was not involved.
The dog is a mutt. We've had him and his sister for four years and he's the sweetest guy. The man who trained him is meeting with us this weekend. He thinks its our fault beause we treat them like family and the dog was just showing me he was alpha and we need to stop letting them sleep with us and start showing them they're dogs again.
I think I will heal well. I am still on oral Abx but switched from topical Abx to the IS Clinical. I'll report on the effectiveness over time as I am doing everything to prevent scaring.
It breaks my heart to put the dogs in their kennel at night but I don't want to be the next face transplant patient.
Sarah, it was the consult I already wrote about.
sam
Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 4:30:59 PM
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kk, no stitches. Doctors make the worst patients so I didn't even go to the ER just called my derm in AM. I am being really careful and for once trying to follow directions Abx, no sun, etc. I'm hoping that the IS Clinical will prevent scars from forming, if not might try CPs down the road. I'm trying to look on the bright side and figure that any future PS scars can be brushed off as my dog bite.
Do you remember Ted Bundy, the serial killer they identified by his teeth marks in a victim's rear. We've been calling the canine perp in our house Ted because his dental records are on my face.
Watch out for that Akita.
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Posted: Saturday, May 09, 2009 12:08:07 AM
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I think you should get rid of the dog. If an animal does something like that, they are NOT a good pet to keep.
sam
Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:54:24 PM
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Miss J I have heard that alot. We took the dog to their trainer and he showed us all the things that we were doing wrong, confusing him into thinking he had to be alpha in the pack. He is really sweet and a first time offender. His sister would not know what to do without him. I think in this case it was our fault not his and we are being very strict.

I am documenting my healing so I can make something good come from this. The swelling and bruising are gone as are the abrasions. The scabs are off and I'm following the texture and pigmentary change each week with pictures. As noted my derm gave me IS Clinical which I had never heard of before. If I scar well or hopefully not at all I think it would be an addition to the PS arsenal.


The author has nothing to disclose (ie no stock or research grants from IS Clinical).
Sarah W
Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 8:17:04 PM
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sam wrote:
Miss J I have heard that alot. We took the dog to their trainer and he showed us all the things that we were doing wrong, confusing him into thinking he had to be alpha in the pack. He is really sweet and a first time offender. His sister would not know what to do without him. I think in this case it was our fault not his and we are being very strict.

I am documenting my healing so I can make something good come from this. The swelling and bruising are gone as are the abrasions. The scabs are off and I'm following the texture and pigmentary change each week with pictures. As noted my derm gave me IS Clinical which I had never heard of before. If I scar well or hopefully not at all I think it would be an addition to the PS arsenal.


The author has nothing to disclose (ie no stock or research grants from IS Clinical).


OMG Sam I did not realise it was such a bad bite. I am so sorry. I tend to agree with MissJ. It is NOT a sweet dog. A sweet dog would not bite its owner. I know you love it and all that, but it is not worth being injured.Hopefully the trainer may be able to help you through this but I find it disturbing.
I am interested to see how the IS Clinical works. Do keep us informed:)
sam
Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 8:34:22 PM
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Thanks Sarah. It's not horrible it's just the location in the middle of my face when I'm currently looking to become hotter not colder.
I've done enough research trials to know that an n of 1 means nothing but I do think if I am left without a scar from this, or a minimal one the IS C may be worth trying. Can you say "science project"?
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 10:55:14 PM
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sam, I hope the wound is improving.

Yes, you could be training the dog the wrong way BUT STILL, it's better to have a dog that does not have that 'in them'.
sam
Posted: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:27:11 PM
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Unfortunate update. My wound is not healing well despite Abx and scrupulous wound care. I went to one of my derms partners and she said that the ISclinical may be interfering with wound healing. I'm now on wet to dry dressings and vaseline.
I don't know if this was the cause but I don't want anyone to get into trouble. So as usual if it sounds too good to be true it probably is.
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Posted: Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:01:05 PM
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Sorry to hear that ISC didnt work .


sam wrote:
Unfortunate update. My wound is not healing well despite Abx and scrupulous wound care. I went to one of my derms partners and she said that the ISclinical may be interfering with wound healing. I'm now on wet to dry dressings and vaseline.
I don't know if this was the cause but I don't want anyone to get into trouble. So as usual if it sounds too good to be true it probably is.
MissJ
Posted: Saturday, May 23, 2009 7:39:48 PM
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Try some of those wound healing creams with SILVER in them. Things used for ulcers.

Also, when I had an open wound that would not seem to heal, I put HONEY into the wound (old fashion anti-bacterial). Let is stay for a while and then removed. Then I put retin a on it (or in it). Let that stay for a while and washed it out. (I spent hours and hours googling wound healing info for ulcers and came accross research that lead me to use the honey and retin a.) Then I just covered it with it's usual dressing which was an anti-bacterial ointment (and I'm suggesting you look into getting one with silver in it for that) and also some bandaging.
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Posted: Saturday, May 23, 2009 7:42:28 PM
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Another old fashion remedy for wound healing is COMFREY poultice. You get fresh comfrey leaves which you can find sometimes as weeds or wild plants growing near railroad tracks, side of road etc. You grind up in blender and use as poultice.

IMO, a lot of the good remedies for wound healing are actually the OLD FASHION ones but the info on them is crowed out by companies want to make (and profit) by other products.
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Be careful with silver ingredients. They can lead to argyria if used improperly.

MissJ wrote:
Try some of those wound healing creams with SILVER in them. Things used for ulcers.
Chris K
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sam wrote:
I had a dog bite to the face this weekend. I was started on oral and topical Abx immediately. When I saw my derm on Monday she gave me Pro Heal Serum Advance. She uses it on skin cancer patients to prevent scarring and pigmentary changes. She told me to look at their website - www.isclinical.com - which is very interesting. I don't start using it until my scabs fall off so I'll report back. Lots of information on the website. If this works I think it would be great for PS scars. If it doesn't I will be really depressed.
Is it a sign that I have a PS consult on Friday and a dog bite to the face on Saturday?




Sam, i'm sorry to hear about this. I have a feeling that it will heal without a trace. Maybe its a sign that the surgeon you're seeing on Friday is not a good choice?
sam
Posted: Sunday, May 24, 2009 4:48:15 PM
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Chris, it was after my consult with a certain Dr. G in Cleveland. The bite did not make me any less certain that he is great. Am I O.K. with my karma? Thanks for the healing vibe.
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