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Offline makingchoices  
#1 Posted : Friday, February 2, 2018 8:31:48 PM(UTC)
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so she says she has been using Retin A for 28 years- and this is the result -( I'm guessing she also had a very nice face lift too )- and says she also has brought in Obagi more recently. Just wondering if you think 28 years could produce skin this nice? I am way behind !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqkt9rYtt2Q

would IPL be a good option for brown spots, etc...if I wanted a quicker result?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB4rLiAHkf8 shows pictures of rings on her neck at age 32 and using Retin A to get rid of rings on neck too

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Offline Larazelle  
#2 Posted : Friday, February 2, 2018 10:27:26 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: makingchoices Go to Quoted Post
so she says she has been using Retin A for 28 years- and this is the result -( I'm guessing she also had a very nice face lift too )- and says she also has brought in Obagi more recently. Just wondering if you think 28 years could produce skin this nice? I am way behind !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqkt9rYtt2Q

would IPL be a good option for brown spots, etc...if I wanted a quicker result?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB4rLiAHkf8 shows pictures of rings on her neck at age 32 and using Retin A to get rid of rings on neck too



Thanks Making for these - I found an interesting one on Retin A "Myths" -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6d__GhcBJ0

Offline makingchoices  
#3 Posted : Friday, February 2, 2018 10:35:11 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Larazelle - Melissa55, the maker of the videos I posted says she has never done anything surgical to her face ( no FL) or botox even. Is that really possible if she is 62 in the videos? Her videos go back to 2013. She looks a little different 4 years ago but I can't tell - my eye is probably not educated enough.If its just her skin regimen I am very impressed - but NOTHING sagging!? -seems impossible to me

I am watching the one you posted right now - thanks.
Offline Larazelle  
#4 Posted : Friday, February 2, 2018 10:57:50 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Larazelle - Melissa55, the maker of the videos I posted says she has never done anything surgical to her face ( no FL) or botox even. Is that really possible if she is 62 in the videos? Her videos go back to 2013. She looks a little different 4 years ago but I can't tell - my eye is probably not educated enough.If its just her skin regimen I am very impressed - but NOTHING sagging!? -seems impossible to me

I am watching the one you posted right now - thanks.


I'm not sure that she has NOT done anything - but chances are that she has NOT,because I get an "honest" vibe from her and I think she would have admitted that she has had work done. Having said that, since her face is ALWAYS in motion as she is constantly talking its hard to really see if she has any sagging but when she stops talking for a couple of secs I do notice that her skin does not look as "taut". I also think she looks her age (more or less) - or perhaps she looks 55, but npt younger - she has a "worldly" look to her - she even look quite mature looking at 32. Her skin is AMAZING though. I liked her video on the neck rings as I have had them since I was 17 - I'm going to start using Retin A on them.

BTW - in the video I posted - one of the myths is "don't put Retin A around the eyes" and people on MissJ also say that - however in the past I have used it around the eyes and had not problem with it - but recently after hearing people say not to, I have stopped.



Offline lamb  
#5 Posted : Saturday, February 3, 2018 12:51:12 AM(UTC)
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The most anti aging thing about Melissa is her outstanding bone structure. That’s the key to how she looks so good, nothing to do with her skin, though her skin is also fantastic and she found what works for her.
Offline Greg  
#6 Posted : Saturday, February 3, 2018 4:32:53 AM(UTC)
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The most anti aging thing about Melissa is her outstanding bone structure. That’s the key to how she looks so good, nothing to do with her skin, though her skin is also fantastic and she found what works for her.


Yep, I definitely agree that Melissa has a facial structure that helps her skin drape in well-supported manner which is inclined to age well.
Offline Robin  
#7 Posted : Saturday, February 3, 2018 9:48:05 AM(UTC)
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She had nice skin to start with - you can see that even in the pics she holds up. Consistent skincare (including, or maybe mostly, sun avoidance) definitely makes a difference in how well your skin ages.

i agree with others that her bone structure is a big factor.

regarding surgery like a facelift, it's really hard to tell because of the angle of the video. it's shot from above and she never relaxes her face. i didn't have the time or interest to watch every frame of all the videos to see if i could find something.

there aren't any stills or closeups so it's also not possible to see crows feet, crepey eyelids, etc.

but no doubt, she has taken good care of herself and looks great at that age
Offline Robin  
#8 Posted : Saturday, February 3, 2018 10:05:19 AM(UTC)
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there's a lot that can be done for the skin at any age but it's not an overnight thing, and it's not just a one-dimensional thing like "use retinol".

take a look at the lower right of this page where these derms discuss "GRASSE" approach to skincare:

http://www.weloveskinstore.com/

It's a cute acronym, but the advice is sound.

In terms of making the skin look better and contribute to a more youthful look, here is an article at the beginning and end of a year long journey that a 50 year old author took to improve her appearance working with a derm - laser, botox, fillers, skincare:

The beginning:

https://www.vogue.com/ar...iades-year-long-facelift

After a year:

https://www.vogue.com/ar...dunn-filler-botox-lasers

I know you have been looking at derms for lip injections and are now looking at medspas for that... i would encourage you to keep looking for a derm with a well rounded approach to skincare and get going on a regimen. Dr Marten will also tell you that :-)... youthfulness is conveyed by the structure, the soft tissue over the structure which is what he does, and the smoothness and color uniformity of the skin - which is the domain of derms and skincare...

Offline macaroon lover  
#9 Posted : Saturday, February 3, 2018 10:17:10 AM(UTC)
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tbh how sure can we be she is really 62? I mean, her hands and neck look unbelievably good for 62.

Offline Meeka  
#10 Posted : Saturday, February 3, 2018 12:30:16 PM(UTC)
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She does have great bone structure. Does she say she hasn't done any fillers? Her cheeks look so good, hard to believe she maintained them without fillers. She is very animated when she talks....almost like a facial workout.
Offline makingchoices  
#11 Posted : Saturday, February 3, 2018 1:18:39 PM(UTC)
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Here is her actual video where she explains why she has not gotten any surgery, or injections too. I agree Lazarelle, she does strike me as being honest. I do like what she says about beauty as we age - what makes a woman beautiful is also/mostly what our interior state is. She does come up close to the camera towards the end and she shows she has wrinkles in the forehead when she squints etc...

Her bone structure is amazing -yes, but not sure if that's enough for most people. I also think her lighting, or even a filter on the camera, helps her skin look so good.


http://missjfacialplasti...sage.aspx?t=10768&f=

Lazarelle - thanks for the video of the journalist and her 12 months of skin rejuvenation - very educational!!
Offline makingchoices  
#12 Posted : Saturday, February 3, 2018 1:35:08 PM(UTC)
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So, here is something-

a video from 2013 in which her face looks a lot thinner to me - but she does not look that much thinner in her body when she stands up then she does in her recent videos. I like her - and she has some good tips - and I'm astounded by how she stays looking so young with no surgery!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imdlwG6g7oo

also the eyelids here in 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQLMQDnvqEI

And my question is - how do you gain fat in your face ( this bottom video) as you age from topicals? Seems like that would be impossible - maybe if it stimulates collagen it would work?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EZoz5POH3s



Offline Robin  
#13 Posted : Saturday, February 3, 2018 1:47:55 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: makingchoices Go to Quoted Post


Lazarelle - thanks for the video of the journalist and her 12 months of skin rejuvenation - very educational!!




That was from me, and you are welcome.


And seriously, although this person does look great for 60+ she is really careful with her camera angle! You really can't tell about sagging cheeks because she keeps her face lifted/animated in EVERY shot. And the neck/underjaw area is hidden by the "from above" camera. If you google around for how to take good selfie photos and videos you will find that this is one of the easiest tips. give it a try yourself.
Offline makingchoices  
#14 Posted : Saturday, February 3, 2018 1:58:03 PM(UTC)
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Sorry Robin - I see that now - and thank you for the other one about the GRASSE approach to skin care - that was especially helpful to see all the 'layers' that go into a well designed skin care regimen. I am still studying that site.

The problem for me is that I live 2 hours from any metropolitan area - in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia ( a transplant from Connecticut) and finding a good dermatologist in this area with a cosmetic focus will be impossible. I'll be driving to DC probably
Offline MissJ  
#15 Posted : Saturday, February 3, 2018 2:44:57 PM(UTC)
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She probably gets botox, fillers, lifts and lasers and has a you tube channel about skin for the number of 'hits' she gets. Her skin is great though as looks to be the case with her bone structure.
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