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are there any docs that are known for their eye work? I had upper eyelid surgery last year (not really a bleph, it was more to change the shape of the eyes) which left my eyes looking very asymmetrical. it's going to take someone pretty amazing to make my eyes look nice again. btw i might post pics later.
any recommendations? (can be overseas as well)
thanks
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^^^ and if you are looking in Los Angeles/Beverly Hills, also check out Dr. Robert Goldberg. He is the long-time head of Occuloplastic Surgery at UCLA's Jules Stein Eye Institute, where Groth did his residency. Excellent surgeon who is very nice. He doesn't have a website. I've used him for restylane only, but really liked him. I know that he does a ton of complex revisions. That being said, it would really be helpful if you posted pictures. You can post just your eyes to protect your anonymity if you want. Your problem might be that too much volume was removed over one eye instead of skin. That problem might be much easier to fix and the number of docs who could help you would increase exponentially, as you could "even out" the offending eye with an injectible filler or fat. Here is a photo example of someone who was helped by simply injecting Restylane over the upper lids (Photo from Val Lambros' website):
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thanks for the replies so far. i will definitely check out those recommendations. here are my eyes. I want to add that I have BDD. having surgery on my eyes was the worst decision I ever made. as you can see my eyes were fine before surgery. they look awful now. to me, they look very 'damaged' and obviously very asymmetrical. you can see how the left eye shoots up at the end. if you follow the outer point of the eye inward on left side it lies above the iris while on the right it's below. before  after
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I think you're better off leaving well enough alone here, and chalk it up to being an educational life experience. A certain amount of asymmetry is within the normal range, you could easily make it worse and I doubt if you would ever be satisfied with your result. Sincere best wishes.
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Did you do lower and upper belph at the same time? leave it alone, you will never be able to get whatever you had in the past, I have same problem like yours, I wish I never had upper belph, I actually did not need it, I only had may be like 0.5mm extra skin if any, it was too early to have it for me, I used a very good talented dr and he was happy to do it and get $$$, I ended up with dry eyes, it will be 2 years this Oct and I still can't sleep without using an ointment because of "very dry" eyes problems, you should thank your God that your eyes look beautiful in the after, I'm thankful that he did not mess with the look but the function, I have no idea how to solve my problem but only "wait it out" as some other dr suggested in which he thought the skin may stretches when I get older I swear to God, I will never EVER do any upper belph AGAIN.
[quote=marky]thanks for the replies so far. i will definitely check out those recommendations.
here are my eyes. I want to add that I have BDD. having surgery on my eyes was the worst decision I ever made. as you can see my eyes were fine before surgery. they look awful now. to me, they look very 'damaged' and obviously very asymmetrical. you can see how the left eye shoots up at the end. if you follow the outer point of the eye inward on left side it lies above the iris while on the right it's below.
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marky wrote:thanks for the replies so far. i will definitely check out those recommendations. here are my eyes. I want to add that I have BDD. having surgery on my eyes was the worst decision I ever made. as you can see my eyes were fine before surgery. they look awful now. to me, they look very 'damaged' and obviously very asymmetrical. you can see how the left eye shoots up at the end. if you follow the outer point of the eye inward on left side it lies above the iris while on the right it's below. before  after  Honestly, your eyes do not look any more asymmetrical in the after pic than the before (some asymmetry is normal and even the most beautiful/handsome faces do not have perfectly symmetrical eyes). the effect you refer to about the outer corner being above the pupil is created or at least exaggerated by the angle of the picture. Your eyes look spectacular both before and after.
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Marky, I agree with all of the above..your eyes are beautiful...would give my left (whatever) to have that upward tilt that you have going on! BDD is so tough...I suspect most of us here have a touch of it...it is good to post and get input as BDD prevents your from being able to analyze your own refection accurately. Been there, done that and am still trying to control it so you are not alone!
All the best to you!
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From looking at your photos which look pretty good; both before and after and admission that you have BDD, it's unlikely you would be happy with any revision surgery. marky wrote:are there any docs that are known for their eye work? I had upper eyelid surgery last year (not really a bleph, it was more to change the shape of the eyes) which left my eyes looking very asymmetrical. it's going to take someone pretty amazing to make my eyes look nice again. btw i might post pics later.
any recommendations? (can be overseas as well)
thanks
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I had my upper & lower lids done by Dr. Fagien in Boca Ratan, Florida and I'm pleased with the results
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marky wrote:thanks for the replies so far. i will definitely check out those recommendations. here are my eyes. I want to add that I have BDD. having surgery on my eyes was the worst decision I ever made. as you can see my eyes were fine before surgery. they look awful now. to me, they look very 'damaged' and obviously very asymmetrical. you can see how the left eye shoots up at the end. if you follow the outer point of the eye inward on left side it lies above the iris while on the right it's below. before  after  How come the eye color looks different in the after?
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Your 'asymmetry' is barely noticeable to me. I had to really look very close to see it. But, you did have it slightly before anyway. I agree with others and Miss J. As for docs, Goldberg is a good doc and a nice guy too.
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Don't think it matters. Your eyes look dead sexy and I love them! forget the before crap.......throw those pics out.
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His canthal angle is higher in the after than in the before. markey, did you request a cantho procedure to elevate the corners of your eyelids as it looks like that's what you got.
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thanks for all the kind replies. i wish I could see what you see. its really hard to accept that my eyes look normal - they just look so 'off' to me! I also feel that they don't suit my face. although it might look like it, I didn't actually have a canthopexy. the surgeon just removed skin from the upper eyelid, too much in the case of the left eye. another surgeon tried to fix this 'retraction' by attaching the top eyelid to the bottom one to pull it downwards. instead the bottom eyelid ended up being pulled upwards which is what gives the left eye that slanted look. i think it looks even worse from different angles. the eye colour is different because of lighting I suppose. again, I really appreciate all the nice replies, as confusing as they are!
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Are you sure he did not access the canthal ligament from a lateral bleph incision? It looks like that was done.
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yeah im pretty sure only skin was involved
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THen maybe it made some upward traction of the canthal angle.
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Mark, you have the most perfect eyebrow slant. I hope I can get my eyebrows to slant down like that when I get my forehead augmented. It's a very masculine trait.
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Hello Marky, I just like to say your Before Picture looks good. I have No idea why you even did this Surgery plus you look Young. In the before Picture Both Eye Shape and lower Eyelid Skin all looks good to me. Was the Doctor a Occuplastic Doctor.
I see you wanted your Eyes to be Changed. Why Mess with Good Eyes that you have already. You know how many people get Messed up getting Eye Surgery. You can read all of the Posting on here or other Sites.
You look great and listen to the other People here who told you Don't do anything else. Once you get Skin & Muscle Cut and it comes out Bad. THE GAME IS OVER. You can't undo that. And to get something Fixed.REVISIONS ARE THE WORST. People are getting these issues.
1. Dry Eyes. 2. Vision Loss. 3. Eye Shape Changed. 4. Outer Corners Messed up. 5. Droopy Eyes. 6. Bad Incisions.
These are afew isssues you may get. Their are many more. And The Doctors don't care what happens. You'll hear things like this Surgery didn't cause you to have thoughs issues. You should really read the Bad outcomes people get. If i were you i would leave well enough alone. Doctors are NOT GOD. They all make mistakes even the TOP SURGEONS.
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