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siredred3
Posted: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:32:00 PM
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I'm just curious how many of you deal with the stress that comes with choosing to alter one's appearance (the fear, regret, financial burden, etc.) ?

Ever since my consult with the max fax who pointed out I have quite a bit of structural problems, I've been stressed. I have a medpor chin (causing erosion) that the max fax may not be able to remove when I finally go in for surgery so I'm stressed about removing it now and being chin-less for a while. I need to get braces all over again as well. And my health insurance supposedly doesn't like to pay much for max fax and it will expire in December of this year.

There are so many decisions to make with what feels like so little time and less money (thanks to this ridiculous recession). How do you all keep sane in the midst of situations like these? I want to make sure I make the right decision(s) but when stress is involved, one may not be thinking clearly.



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siredred3 wrote:
I'm just curious how many of you deal with the stress that comes with choosing to alter one's appearance (the fear, regret, financial burden, etc.) ?

Ever since my consult with the max fax who pointed out I have quite a bit of structural problems, I've been stressed. I have a medpor chin (causing erosion) that the max fax may not be able to remove when I finally go in for surgery so I'm stressed about removing it now and being chin-less for a while. I need to get braces all over again as well. And my health insurance supposedly doesn't like to pay much for max fax and it will expire in December of this year.

There are so many decisions to make with what feels like so little time and less money (thanks to this ridiculous recession). How do you all keep sane in the midst of situations like these? I want to make sure I make the right decision(s) but when stress is involved, one may not be thinking clearly.





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Bugjune
Posted: Friday, March 05, 2010 9:12:36 PM
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siredred3: I've been overall ecstatic with all the work I've had done (brow lift, upper eye bleph, midface lift, neck lift/lipo, lipo to knees, Vaser High Def lipo to torso ... um, surely I'm forgetting something?).

BUT. After my first torso lipo in 2004, I had very disappointing, ropey results. It bugged me BLIND for a couple years. Then I just tried to work it off with lots of ab crunches. It was only slightly diminished. That's what drove me to explore other lipo techniques and finally get the Vaser done last August. That technology wasn't even around back in 2004 - so know that even if you have to wait things out, it can go in your favor if new technologies or materials are developed.

I guess what I'm saying is that I can empathize with your predicament - especially if it involves removing the implant and looking like your chin is diminished for a while - I know that would stress me out. On top of which there is the reality of financial concerns and spotty health insurance coverage.

But try not to get too overwhelmed by it all now. Take things ONE step at a time. Just focus on getting the best possible outcome and even visualize a successful result. (This is what Yatts said, too.) You can only control so much when going into elective, major surgery. So be easy on yourself but be very, very thorough on who you go to.

Try NOT to make any decision right on the spot. Force yourself to take at least 2-3 solid days to ponder each surgical procedure before committing.

Good luck on tackling this mission!

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siredred3
Posted: Saturday, March 06, 2010 3:05:21 PM
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Thanks guys. You do make some good points. I'm going to try and focus on (and visualize) a successful outcome. Even if it is going to take me about a year, I guess it's worth it now so that I can reap the benefits sooner than later in life. I've gone most of my life without a chin, what's another year? I'm very much a believer in energy and thoughts becoming reality which is why I want to get into the right frame of mind before I go forward and make big decisions.

Since my condition is medically necessary I'm also going to focus on how good I will feel after the surgery. It's the only cure. And to know there's a big cosmetic benefit is exciting.

Thanks!
Sarah W
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siredred3 wrote:
Thanks guys. You do make some good points. I'm going to try and focus on (and visualize) a successful outcome. Even if it is going to take me about a year, I guess it's worth it now so that I can reap the benefits sooner than later in life. I've gone most of my life without a chin, what's another year? I'm very much a believer in energy and thoughts becoming reality which is why I want to get into the right frame of mind before I go forward and make big decisions.

Since my condition is medically necessary I'm also going to focus on how good I will feel after the surgery. It's the only cure. And to know there's a big cosmetic benefit is exciting.

Thanks!


I think you have answered your own question with Bugjune's and Y's help! All the best, Siredred
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much more sane to question, debate with yourself, play through possible outcomes etc if it means you come to an informed and sure decision, aware of the risks and benefits and possible trade-offs, or compromises..

for me the decision-making process is very stressful - as is the immediate post-operative "wtf have i done?"

i think yours is a perfectly normal and healthy response to some of the uncertainties. when i had to have some revision work done that was by no means a sure thing i kept a list of pros and cons and added to it when i had doubts. i think the results were middling but by then i had known that was a likely outcome..

do what you can to empower yourself to make the right decisions, if that means a little bit of worry along the way don't beat yourself up for that

sorry i am writing in cliches..ack..





siredred3 wrote:
I'm just curious how many of you deal with the stress that comes with choosing to alter one's appearance (the fear, regret, financial burden, etc.) ?

Ever since my consult with the max fax who pointed out I have quite a bit of structural problems, I've been stressed. I have a medpor chin (causing erosion) that the max fax may not be able to remove when I finally go in for surgery so I'm stressed about removing it now and being chin-less for a while. I need to get braces all over again as well. And my health insurance supposedly doesn't like to pay much for max fax and it will expire in December of this year.

There are so many decisions to make with what feels like so little time and less money (thanks to this ridiculous recession). How do you all keep sane in the midst of situations like these? I want to make sure I make the right decision(s) but when stress is involved, one may not be thinking clearly.



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Posted: Saturday, March 06, 2010 6:41:19 PM
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siredred3 wrote:
I'm just curious how many of you deal with the stress that comes with choosing to alter one's appearance (the fear, regret, financial burden, etc.) ?

Ever since my consult with the max fax who pointed out I have quite a bit of structural problems, I've been stressed. I have a medpor chin (causing erosion) that the max fax may not be able to remove when I finally go in for surgery so I'm stressed about removing it now and being chin-less for a while. I need to get braces all over again as well. And my health insurance supposedly doesn't like to pay much for max fax and it will expire in December of this year.

There are so many decisions to make with what feels like so little time and less money (thanks to this ridiculous recession). How do you all keep sane in the midst of situations like these? I want to make sure I make the right decision(s) but when stress is involved, one may not be thinking clearly.


I have a sort of similar situation. I got cheek implants I don't like. While they are not making me ugly (i hope) they were a waste. I plan on getting them removed. I could do that and cross my finger that I don't look horrible after or I could spend a lot more and get a cheek lift at the same time. The a big fear with PS is spending 5k or more just to have to spend much more to reverse it. So the way I deal with it is to try not to think about it for now and focus on something productive. What else can you do until you are ready to get more surgery?



siredred3
Posted: Monday, March 08, 2010 9:42:14 PM
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Thanks guys. It makes sense........ I guess, I'm just trying to plan everything out in my mind so I'm not left surprised when I finally get everything done. It's like dealing with insurance is one big issue, finding a new orthodontist is another, and accepting the fact that max fax is going to be a long recovery. I mostly feel like I'm purposely going to miss out on one more year of life stressed out, looking worse, and recovering by pursuing surgery. It doesn't make any sense since going on the way I am now will only be worse in the long run regarding my physical and mental health.

I guess I'm just angry I have to go through all this because the medical community was so blind to not catch how interconnected all my problems were sooner. All my problems stem from isolated medical judgement. That's why I'm into naturopathic holistic health these days. For God sakes my ortho is the one who said I was fine and all I needed was a chin implant. My ENT was the first to tell me my jaw was deformed. I recently found out my ortho's not even board certified (which is a voluntary process but alludes to some degree about his ability) and he's not listed on the orthodontic specialty website nor the ADA which I find fishy. Not to mention a google search brings up civil suits brought up against him for financial problems. Basically, I feel like I have just been one big dollar sign to doctors my whole life, even to my PS. He recently told me he would agree that my jaws as a whole were recessive BUT that max fax was painful and hard etc..etc...etc... blah blah blah. This is AFTER he put in the chin implant.

Anyway, sorry to get all emo on here and start venting but I get so frustrated sometimes. I'm just gonna continue to visualize a successful outcome. Thankfully, a dentist friend of mine spoke to a max fax faculty member about my issue and he recommended someone who he feels is on par with arnett/gunson. This guy is in my state so maybe that will help the insurance situation.

Thanks again!
MissJ
Posted: Monday, March 08, 2010 10:03:14 PM
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I don't blame you at all for your frustration. A lot of these guys just look for employment opportunities in your mouth or on your face and don't lead you to the solution to what the real problem is. You're more likely to get a big clue as to what the real problem is with my evaluations and/or on my board than some of these doctors people elect to see on their own. Believe me. I know how it is.

I've been having problems with computer since May. I'm on a loaner now and still waiting for a new one. If I don't get back to you or am not on board, it would be most likely due to another computer problem.



siredred3
Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:43:26 PM
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Miss J,

It's pretty disappointing knowing that doctors (people you should be able to rely on) do in fact see patients as employment opportunities. I guess I'm more upset because I don't personally operate that way in life. Anyhow, you and your board have a tremendous help. I'm still planning on a personal analysis as soon as my pocketbook allows. Traveling for consults gets expensive!
MissJ
Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:12:22 PM
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Well, an analysis has one part of its aim to target the doctors with whom to consult. So, often money saved on doctors not needed to consult with (which people will do on their own) more than pays for the analysis.

I've been having problems with computer since May. I'm on a loaner now and still waiting for a new one. If I don't get back to you or am not on board, it would be most likely due to another computer problem.



Bugjune
Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:45:21 PM
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siredred3: About your the ortho who recommended the implant - OMG.

But you have to put that behind you! We don't always think about running a search on every specialist/doctor/health care person we see!

If I had a nickel for every *elective* procedure that I've done that had a downside to it, I'd be RICH - in nickels!

I definitely feel that most members of the medical profession see us patients as isolated cases. Wait till you're over 80, in the hospital, and maybe even have a durable medical power of attorney lost in your file cabinet at home. You will have every Dr. Tom, Dick and Harry administering treatments in isolation - which may even prolong your life without your even wanting it.

But I am getting carried away. That is years off. Just relax, focus on THIS year, a GOOD outcome, and dammit get it all done. Sounds like you're on the right track with the recommendation you just got. And if you have insurance to cover it ... well, you've won the lottery.

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siredred3
Posted: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:23:31 AM
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Again, you make total sense. I wonder where my head has been this past year. Lol. My decision making has not been so good lately and it's getting me mad.

MissJ wrote:
Well, an analysis has one part of its aim to target the doctors with whom to consult. So, often money saved on doctors not needed to consult with (which people will do on their own) more than pays for the analysis.


Bugjune,

You're right about not running a search on doctors all the time. I started ortho treatment when I was a freshman in HS. There is no way I would've known how to find a reputable ortho on my own nor have even known what max fax is. My parents didn't know these things either. We trusted the 'experts'. I've been the guinea pig being the eldest. Lol. I'm going to put my frustration into something positive like start a personal blog to educate other about my unfortunate medical experiences so that they won't have to go through the same things. You're right; new year, good outcome!
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