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Miss j I agree. Luv the stuff in the blue round jar !
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Me too, Eliz. Been using it for years!
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complex 15 is one that worked well in the past, lightweight and not oily, doesn't cause sensitivity or blemishes. it's been a while since i used it but it worked well.
(side note on cleansers: someone earlier in the thread said that the wmt brand of cetaphil burned their skin, unfortuantely the tgt brand also did the same when i tried it, so probably better to stick to the brand name for anyone who uses it/wants to try it.)
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The November issue of Allure has a whole articles on fashion and beauty essentials for the winter - they recommend Ponds Cold cream as a cleanser and Aveeno Ultra calming night cream, CeraVe, and few others for a moisturizer - check out the article
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Ponds cold creme is a CLASSIC--it's been around for years.
I've been having problems with computer since May. I'm on a loaner now and still waiting for a new one. If I don't get back to you or am not on board, it would be most likely due to another computer problem.
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Have you tried Noah's Naturals.
I started using the Milk cleanser a couple of days ago and so far it seems to be making my skin better it calmed down the dryness and peeling I had going on on the cheeks,the best part is that it was only $7.99 (at walmart)
Edited on 2/19/10 to add that I stop using it because it was to rich for my skin and felt greasy.
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regular use with a high end milk facial cleanser use to cause super tiny bugs in my sink hole, my cleaning lady figured out what it was.(I know it sounds gross)
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barbiegirl wrote:I love Dr. Belter Aqua Silk 24 moisturizer. It is all natural, It's not all natural. But they are using something natural as emulsifier which is rare in the cosmetics world: phospholipids, which is another way of saying lecithin. It's interesting because with all those different types of lipids they would need different types of lecithin to emulsify everything. There are companies that sell lecithins with different HLBs to get many different types of lipids to emulsify in water bases. I guess the company that sells these different lecithins are extracting these different HLB types with a super huge seperatory funnel. Most emulsifiers on the market are synthetic, they are very similar to surfactants and very unnatural to produce. They typically require very high heat and/or very high pressures to synthesize. Lecithin is about the only exception. So I suppose this product is more "natural" in some important ways than most moisturizers. INCI / Ingredients INCI-EU (INCI-US) AQUA (WATER), PENTYLENE GLYCOL, CAPRYLIC/ CAPRIC TRIGLYCERIDE, GLYCERIN, SQUALANE, BUTYROSPERMUM PARKII BUTTER (SHEA BUTTER), HELIANTHUS ANNUUS (SUNFLOWER) SEED WAX, PRUNUS AMYGDALUS DULCIS OIL (SWEET ALMOND OIL), CETEARYL ALCOHOL, PHOSPHOLIPIDS, PHENOXYETHANOL, HYDROXYETHYL ACRYLATE/SODIUM ACRYLOYLDIMETHYL TAURATE COPOLYMER, LACTIS PROTEINUM (MILK PROTEIN), SERICIN, TOCOPHEROL, BUTYLENE GLYCOL, SODIUM LACTATE, AMINO ACIDS, SODIUM PCA, XANTHAN GUM, FRUCTOSE, CERAMIDE 3, UREA, PANAX GINSENG EXTRACT (GINSENG EXTRACT), INOSITOL, NIACINAMIDE, SODIUM HYALURONATE, CITRIC ACID, PARFUM (FRAGRANCE) But I doubt it is better for the skin than a plain old petroleum jelly, which is pretty much inert and nonreactive even when the skin's barrier is incredibly damaged. Doctors specify use of petroleum jelly bases or silicone gel after deep peels and lasers because they are so nonreactive and better tolerated than any natural product. There have been a lot of studies on natural moisturizers, some that use skin NMF components as humectants (hyaluronic acid, urea, aminos, lactate, NaPCA), some than mimic the vernix, and some that seek to find the precise balance of ceramides (both type and number), cholesterol, and free fatty acids for optimal barrier repair, and they don't really convince yet. Plain old petroleum jelly usually beats them in clinical trials. Maybe the technology isn't there yet. For now you can find a few of these on the ingredients labels, sometimes they jack up the price unjustifiably. But the true tests are: do you like it, will you use it, do you feel good about what you spent? I don't think there is anything wrong with Nivea, Aquaphor, Cetaphil, or CeraVe, if your skin tolerates them. Mine hates to be occluded, even when it needs it. So I use them only very sparingly.
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kosmeds wrote:
It's not all natural. But they are using something natural as emulsifier which is rare in the cosmetics world: phospholipids, which is another way of saying lecithin. It's interesting because with all those different types of lipids they would need different types of lecithin to emulsify everything. There are companies that sell lecithins with different HLBs to get many different types of lipids to emulsify in water bases. I guess the company that sells these different lecithins are extracting these different HLB types with a super huge seperatory funnel.
Most emulsifiers on the market are synthetic, they are very similar to surfactants and very unnatural to produce. They typically require very high heat and/or very high pressures to synthesize. Lecithin is about the only exception. So I suppose this product is more "natural" in some important ways than most moisturizers.
INCI / Ingredients INCI-EU (INCI-US) AQUA (WATER), PENTYLENE GLYCOL, CAPRYLIC/ CAPRIC TRIGLYCERIDE, GLYCERIN, SQUALANE, BUTYROSPERMUM PARKII BUTTER (SHEA BUTTER), HELIANTHUS ANNUUS (SUNFLOWER) SEED WAX, PRUNUS AMYGDALUS DULCIS OIL (SWEET ALMOND OIL), CETEARYL ALCOHOL, PHOSPHOLIPIDS, PHENOXYETHANOL, HYDROXYETHYL ACRYLATE/SODIUM ACRYLOYLDIMETHYL TAURATE COPOLYMER, LACTIS PROTEINUM (MILK PROTEIN), SERICIN, TOCOPHEROL, BUTYLENE GLYCOL, SODIUM LACTATE, AMINO ACIDS, SODIUM PCA, XANTHAN GUM, FRUCTOSE, CERAMIDE 3, UREA, PANAX GINSENG EXTRACT (GINSENG EXTRACT), INOSITOL, NIACINAMIDE, SODIUM HYALURONATE, CITRIC ACID, PARFUM (FRAGRANCE)
But I doubt it is better for the skin than a plain old petroleum jelly, which is pretty much inert and nonreactive even when the skin's barrier is incredibly damaged. Doctors specify use of petroleum jelly bases or silicone gel after deep peels and lasers because they are so nonreactive and better tolerated than any natural product.
There have been a lot of studies on natural moisturizers, some that use skin NMF components as humectants (hyaluronic acid, urea, aminos, lactate, NaPCA), some than mimic the vernix, and some that seek to find the precise balance of ceramides (both type and number), cholesterol, and free fatty acids for optimal barrier repair, and they don't really convince yet. Plain old petroleum jelly usually beats them in clinical trials. Maybe the technology isn't there yet.
For now you can find a few of these on the ingredients labels, sometimes they jack up the price unjustifiably. But the true tests are: do you like it, will you use it, do you feel good about what you spent? I don't think there is anything wrong with Nivea, Aquaphor, Cetaphil, or CeraVe, if your skin tolerates them. Mine hates to be occluded, even when it needs it. So I use them only very sparingly.
I like it. Chill.
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