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Offline MissJ  
#31 Posted : Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:42:10 PM(UTC)
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Lowering the radix.

Originally Posted by: Brazil Jaw Go to Quoted Post
Thanks Miss J, i think i have a long nose in front view. Is there any way to make the nose "appears" smaller? I know the nose height is almost unchangeble


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Offline Brazil Jaw  
#32 Posted : Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:36:54 PM(UTC)
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Is possible to make the middle third of face smaller? Thanks
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#33 Posted : Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:48:15 PM(UTC)
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There is probably no need to in your case.


Originally Posted by: Brazil Jaw Go to Quoted Post
Is possible to make the middle third of face smaller? Thanks


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Offline MissJ  
#34 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 7:13:23 PM(UTC)
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As a matter of course, I don't give elaborative answers outside of a visual context I can see on a person's face, especially so if someone is looking for a 'solution to a problem' they might not have.

In summation, I will say the need for a RHINO is DEFINITE and independent of any need for bi-max. The need for bi-max with reference to the LOGISTICS is INDEFINITE to ME. I've played around doing a bunch of different measures (relative ratios, angles etc) and what it kicks up is OK balance to both jaws and you are a 'horizontal' grower. Horizontal growth pattern is not an indication to shorten an area.

You could get bimax but you will need to find a pro to TARGET the exact ceph analysis method to be used given that the S-N plane throws off a lot of them and my tries kick up 'balance'.


All, in all, I just think you have a small face and an overly LARGE nose, where you should be able to see more balance to the jaws when your nose is addressed. So, i would get that out of the way first.

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Offline Brazil Jaw  
#35 Posted : Wednesday, October 4, 2017 3:29:49 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone,

I've been making some morphs, and I'm having mixed feelings about them. In some moments I think a rhino could benefit me, but in others I think I'm just a little bit different, but not necessarily better. I posted 4 morphs, the first 2 of the right profile which I liked, and the last 2 of the left profile that I did not find much difference (indeed, I think I look worse, since the attention leaves the hump and goes to the base of my nose).

I would like the honest opinion of you (completely random people). First question: are you having the same view of the problem in the left profile or am I being extremely perfectionist? Was it just the effect of light or distance? Maybe the actual result is better than what this morph is showing?

I would not like a biased opinion of a friend or a PS. So, I would sincerely appreciate your opinions.

My another important question is how much is the hump damaging my profile? And, in general, how a hump is seen by others as strange and ugly feature? Maybe for having that gibbous nose, I accepts better humps in a general way, but I would like to know the opinion of others.

I did not want to submit to a rhino, to end up becoming just a different version of me, not necessarily better.

https://imgur.com/a/g3NUK

Thanks in advance.
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#36 Posted : Wednesday, October 4, 2017 4:30:15 PM(UTC)
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I see you added a new photo to the first set called 'Miss J only'. So when you PM me for advice, you just show photos in bad head postures but when you post openly, you show one in a good head posture?

Morphs don't predict the outcomes of surgery. But what you can see from them is the nose looks better.
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Offline Brazil Jaw  
#37 Posted : Wednesday, October 4, 2017 4:42:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MissJ Go to Quoted Post
I see you added a new photo to the first set called 'Miss J only'. So when you PM me for advice, you just show photos in bad head postures but when you post openly, you show one in a good head posture?

Morphs don't predict the outcomes of surgery. But what you can see from them is the nose looks better.


Sorry, MissJ. Totally unintentional.

Did you find it better in all of them?

Thanks!
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#38 Posted : Wednesday, October 4, 2017 4:52:03 PM(UTC)
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The new profile (last photo set) was better than the other head shots.


Originally Posted by: Brazil Jaw Go to Quoted Post
Sorry, MissJ. Totally unintentional.

Did you find it better in all of them?

Thanks!


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Offline MissJ  
#39 Posted : Wednesday, October 4, 2017 4:58:51 PM(UTC)
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Although this document is written for people getting private evaluation, the head postures are those that are the most useful for ANY evaluation, private or via 'crowd sourcing' on a board.
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Offline Greg  
#40 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:17:15 AM(UTC)
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I think the morphs indicate that you will look improved enough with rhinoplasty to justify doing it. The straight (humpless) profile looks good on you. Also, morphs can only show so much--your rhinoplasty, if done well, will improve your tip/columella/nasal base more than may be apparent in morphs. I think that lower third of your nose is an important component of your case.
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#41 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:23:21 AM(UTC)
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Also, what MissJ is saying about head posture in photos is really important. If you don't have someone that can snap the photos for you in proper head postures, one easy resource is to go to a photo or camera shop that offers photography for passport photos. They usually just do frontal photos but they can easily add your side profile and oblique photos if you ask them--and passport photography is usually well lit with no background, and the cost is low.
Offline Greg  
#42 Posted : Saturday, October 7, 2017 3:06:35 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MissJ Go to Quoted Post
There are MANY good rhino guys there. Maybe check out the Pitanguy clinic. TONS of PSs in Brazil who can do noses. https://www.isaps.org/fi...on=Brazil&procedure=


I'm wondering if there are one or two rhino docs in Brazil who are widely considered true 'rhinoplasty masters'--guys who are known to succeed on the toughest rhino cases.....With the American and European rhino specialists it's not so hard to narrow down who the other docs look up to, because the masters are often the ones who sit on the panels or are invited to lecture or perform live teaching surgery at the big US and European rhinoplasty society meetings. And/or, they're a founding member of the society, or its president, etc. I'm not finding a similar visible venues or participation from South American rhino docs, yet I would expect Brazil must have at least one or two famous rhino masters....I guess I'm just failing so far in my research methods.
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#43 Posted : Saturday, October 7, 2017 5:27:04 PM(UTC)
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I'm not sure he needs a 'master' rhino guy. It looks like he might have what they call a 'green light' nose where the HUMP is straight forward to correct and the nose will most of the time look IMPROVED because the hump is the most OBVIOUS problem to it.

ref= https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih...pmc/articles/PMC2691557/

[While some surgeons tend to consider all rhinoplasties as simple and rewarding procedures, others view them all as technically challenging, complex and unpredictable. The truth lies between the two opinions: some rhinoplasties are technically easy to perform (from the surgeon’s perspective) and tend to give impressive results (from the patient’s point of view), whereas others are difficult to perform (from the surgeon’s perspective) and lead to ‘unimpressive’ results (from the patient’s point of view).]





Originally Posted by: Greg Go to Quoted Post
I'm wondering if there are one or two rhino docs in Brazil who are widely considered true 'rhinoplasty masters'--guys who are known to succeed on the toughest rhino cases.....With the American and European rhino specialists it's not so hard to narrow down who the other docs look up to, because the masters are often the ones who sit on the panels or are invited to lecture or perform live teaching surgery at the big US and European rhinoplasty society meetings. And/or, they're a founding member of the society, or its president, etc. I'm not finding a similar visible venues or participation from South American rhino docs, yet I would expect Brazil must have at least one or two famous rhino masters....I guess I'm just failing so far in my research methods.


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Offline Greg  
#44 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:56:12 AM(UTC)
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I agree. Brazil Jaw's rhino case seems straightforward. and it's also a primary, so probably not so high on a difficulty scale. My wondering was more general, because I like to keep on top of who is doing great or innovative work globally and I like to read up on the techniques those guys are using. It seems like we're in a temporary period or lull right now where some of the best/most advanced rhino work is not necessarily being done in the US.... For example, rhino results I'm liking the most currently are coming from several docs in Istanbul.
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#45 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 9:42:29 AM(UTC)
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Yes. Some of the docs in Istanbul are amazing.


Originally Posted by: Greg Go to Quoted Post
I agree. Brazil Jaw's rhino case seems straightforward. and it's also a primary, so probably not so high on a difficulty scale. My wondering was more general, because I like to keep on top of who is doing great or innovative work globally and I like to read up on the techniques those guys are using. It seems like we're in a temporary period or lull right now where some of the best/most advanced rhino work is not necessarily being done in the US.... For example, rhino results I'm liking the most currently are coming from several docs in Istanbul.


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