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Offline lucillenyc  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2009 5:22:35 PM(UTC)
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I have a question - where is Botox supposed to be applied to create a slight eyebrow lift? I had Botox between my eyebrows a week ago and asked for a tad to lift the brow slightly. (I noticed my upper lid doesn't show as much as it used to and wanted to create a brighter-eyed look.)

The injector gave me Botox in the forehead to presumably lift my eyebrows, but now I CAN'T lift my eyebrows at all. My forehead is totally frozen and I hate it!! It almost feels like the eyebrows are being pushed DOWN instead of up.

I was reading that a little extra Botox in an opposing area can balance things out. What would be the best way to correct this and create a lift instead of the feeling the eyebrows are being pushed down?

Suggestions? Thanks
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Offline MissJ  
#2 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2009 5:50:47 AM(UTC)
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It sounds like your injector placed the botox in the wrong place. I get it to the forehead to PREVENT the brows from being lifted. Not sure of exact spot they place to lift them but it would be a part of the corrugator muscle, the part that helps depress the brows--some corrugator fibers connected to the brow (frontalis) muscle. You might need to wait till the botox wears off and find a BETTER injector.
Offline lucillenyc  
#3 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:42:20 AM(UTC)
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Yeah, a better injector sounds good! I'm so pissed. I hate not being able to move my forehead. :-(

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It sounds like your injector placed the botox in the wrong place. I get it to the forehead to PREVENT the brows from being lifted. Not sure of exact spot they place to lift them but it would be a part of the corrugator muscle, the part that helps depress the brows--some corrugator fibers connected to the brow (frontalis) muscle. You might need to wait till the botox wears off and find a BETTER injector.
Offline MissJ  
#4 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2009 7:41:40 AM(UTC)
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You are opposite of me. I get it so I DON'T move my forehead at all and raise my brows.
Offline mich  
#5 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2009 3:52:50 PM(UTC)
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I wish someone could post a diagram, because I too want to know where about the spots are to inject for a botox browlift. The last time I got botox was to get rid of a horizontal line in between my eyes just above my nose. He injected it right into the lines I thought that was wierd.Anyway the mild sweliing from the injection site got rid of the line right away.That was an interesting observation,incase I ever do a tiny bit of filler there.Botox just has not been giving me the lift I want.I have only had it 5 or 6 times.
Offline Sue  
#6 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2009 12:27:37 AM(UTC)
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I just had botox yesterday. If I remember, he injected right above both inner brows, right above the middle brow arch area and because the left side of my face is *falling* faster than the right, he injected at the tail end of the eyebrow on that side. Hope that makes sense. I already can see the difference too. Forehead is tighter, eyebrows are up a bit.

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Offline Dee  
#7 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2009 5:40:42 AM(UTC)
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I would think they'd need to inject the outter part of the eyelid muscle (orbicularis occuli) to give a brow lift. But if you wanted more of a lateral lift then also adding botox to the inner frontalis (medial forehead lifting muscle) can achieve this.

Diagram and action of facial muscles: http://face-and-emotion....e/expression/muscles.jsp
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Offline Sue  
#8 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2009 12:32:31 PM(UTC)
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Sue wrote:
I just had botox yesterday. If I remember, he injected right above both inner brows, right above the middle brow arch area and because the left side of my face is *falling* faster than the right, he injected at the tail end of the eyebrow on that side. Hope that makes sense. I already can see the difference too. Forehead is tighter, eyebrows are up a bit.


Just to add, I also had an injection between both eyebrows. I have had a headache all day today too, not sure if it is the botox or my allergies

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Offline Sarah W  
#9 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2009 12:46:11 PM(UTC)
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Apparently it can cause a temporary headache(known side effect).Should be OK soon.
I wanted the tail of the brow done too. I had my B/tox last Tuesday but was a bit worried about my eyebrow dropping which happened years ago and I had to tape it up!!
Offline lindahr  
#10 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2009 2:35:19 PM(UTC)
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How often you guys get botox, every 3-4 month!, it cost me $700 2 months back
will botox affect the eybrows over long period of time like making them lower and lower, lol, I have already lowered these brows any extra lowering will close my eyes, lol
Offline MissJ  
#11 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2009 3:41:39 PM(UTC)
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They say botox can make the muscles weaker and weaker but sometimes you can build anti-bodies to the botox and they can take more botox or more frequently to do the same thing.
Offline Sarah W  
#12 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2009 6:03:49 PM(UTC)
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lindahere wrote:
How often you guys get botox, every 3-4 month!, it cost me $700 2 months back
will botox affect the eybrows over long period of time like making them lower and lower, lol, I have already lowered these brows any extra lowering will close my eyes, lol


Yeah I paid a whole bunch for botox 4 days ago and there was a bit left in the vial and she said 'oh you have a wrinkle on your chin " and jammed some in there. I now have a round apple wrinkled bobble on the end of my chin when I close my lips together- a hideous sight and my derm has gone off on holiday!!Is there any way to get rid of it in a hurry?
Offline lindahr  
#13 Posted : Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:46:06 AM(UTC)
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did she use it on the chin!, wow I have no idea how to get ride of that bobble, will massaging help?

Originally Posted by: Sarah W Yeah I paid a whole bunch for botox 4 days ago and there was a bit left in the vial and she said ' Go to Quoted Post
Offline Sarah W  
#14 Posted : Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:28:00 AM(UTC)
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I have tried exercising it- given myself sore muscles elsewhere on my jaw which is good.Thanks Linda- I will try ANYTHING! I have no idea what she was thinking. My chin was fine-now it looks like I have deformity!!
Offline lindahr  
#15 Posted : Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:52:12 PM(UTC)
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Thanks God she did not put the extra botox in your mouth or something and choke you, lol, sorry but I can not believe this, does she realize that botox could be very dangerous if injected in wrong place!

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I have tried exercising it- given myself sore muscles elsewhere on my jaw which is good.Thanks Linda- I will try ANYTHING! I have no idea what she was thinking. My chin was fine-now it looks like I have deformity!!
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